Is it true that the philosopher Pyatigorsk is the author of the viral text about collective responsibility?

In April 2023, a mini-expense of collective responsibility attributed to the philosopher and orientalist Alexander Pyatigorsky began to spread in social networks. We checked the correctness of such an attribution.

On April 22 and 23, dozens of Russian -language Facebook users posted on their pages a text that began with the words “You asked me about collective responsibility ... And this is not a question of politics, and not even a question of politics philosophy, and even more not legal ... This is an issue of ontology”. Further, the author reasoned that from the point of view of law, a person living in an attacked state of the state and at the same time did not participate directly in the invasion, did not commit war crimes. But from the point of view of ontology, he committed a crime, because he “does not think” and “lets it go further.” Internet users sign the mini-experts on this topic by the name of the philosopher, one of the founders of the Tartu-Moscow Semiotic School Alexander Pyatigorsky. Separate publicationsincluded in this text, Sicked By A few dozen, and one - even Almost two hundred reposts. Supposedly posted a quote from Pyatigorsky and in Telegram.

Source: Facebook screenshot

Pyatigorsk is not only a philosopher, he also engaged in the research of eastern philosophy and culture, but also wrote works of art. His creative heritage Collected On the site that his heirs lead. “Verified” failed to find the desired quote about collective responsibility either in the books of Pyatigorsk, nor in his articles, lectures, interviews and other open sources (both on a specialized site and beyond).

The most early publication, which supposedly contains the text of Pyatigorsky about collective responsibility, “verified” on Facebook in the post of Victoria Chulkova, dated January 30, 2020 (the philosopher himself died back in 2009). In a conversation with us, Chulkova reported that on April 22, 2023 she added a viral fragment to her old record, and a quote was sent to her by “A friend who shot a documentary about Pyatigorsky” and “just sharing the find”. Now discussions about collective responsibility Deleted From the publication.

Another user, Eugene Tumilo, traced The chain of distribution of text among his friends on Facebook and found the post of Irina Malyshko - on social networks it is represented as a doctor of philosophical sciences from Kyiv. At the end of his publication, which was fully consisted of Pyatigorsk thoughts attributed to a certain Olesya Manyuk (also They acted and other users). In the description of his profile on Facebook indicatedthat Manyuk is a “philosopher, psychoanalyst, an instructor of the studio [east martial arts] Tai Chi”, and the profile itself is closed.

Tumilo Sent Message Manyuk, asking to share the "exact data of quotes." In response, he stated that "for such questions he usually sends as far as possible, because adequate people think about the thought, and do not recognize the exact data of the quotes." The user Pavel Sepa, who,, like the dumb,, Manyuk, blocked the user, also informed about similar results of communication with Manyuk shortly after receiving a message with a clarifying issue.

In a commentary to another user, Tatyana Ponomareva, Manyuk wrote: “These are from my diary entries in 2000. I wrote down what seemed interesting to me. In 1999 and 2000, he was live at the lectures of A. M. [Pyatigorsky]. ” In turn, Ponomareva, who quoted the text about collective responsibility on his page on the night of April 22 to 23, the next day She hastened to report Subscribers who received confirmation of the authorship of Pyatigorsky and that the statement is reliable.

Thus, the mini-expense of collective responsibility began to be attributed to the deceased in 2009 to the philosopher Alexander Pyatigorsky only in the spring of 2023. The distribution of the text began with the post of Olesya Manyuk on Facebook. The two users who did not consisted among his friends who asked him about the origin of the phrase, Manyuk blocked, and his subscriber said that he had taken a quote from his own records of more than 20 years ago. There are no other (and any reliable) evidence that these words really belong to Pyatigorsky. The philosopher himself in the 2006 lecture on revolutions Described My views on collective responsibility are a little differently: "I do not want to be responsible for anything in the world, I am an irresponsible person by nature, and change late."

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