Is it true that the Ukrainians gave the video of their reprisals against the inhabitants of Kupyansk for the atrocities of Russian soldiers?

On the network, a video diverged in which people in military uniforms drop the bodies of those killed into a dug hole. According to Ukrainian telegram channels, this Russian soldiers deal with civilians of Kupyansk, but the Russian media allegedly found inconsistencies in the video. We checked the arguments of both sides.

On October 9, the former commander of the Azov regiment Maxim Zorin published in his Telegram channel video, which allegedly shows the reprisal of the Russian military against the civilian population of the city of Kupyansk. On the same day, Russian media Reportedthat the video actually depicts the Ukrainian military, which entered the left Kupyansk in early September. According to Russian sources, killed citizens are civilians who "did not want to cooperate with Ukrainian militants." Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation excited The criminal case of the murder of civilians of Kupyansk, and the Ombudsman Tatyana Moskalkova I asked International human rights organizations conduct an investigation.

The Ukrainian city of Kupyansk has been under the control of Russian troops since February 2022. September 10, the authorities of the Kharkov region announcedthat the Ukrainian military liberated the city. About the same reported And the former “Minister of Defense” of the self -proclaimed DPR Igor Girkin (Strelkov), who often comments on the actions of the Russian troops.

A video in which the bodies of civilians are dumped into a mass grave for the first time appeared In the Telegram channel “Katharsis” with the signature “We came to us a video from Kupyansk before its de-Ukrainian. How RussoSvins destroyed the Ukrainian civilian population. ” The post was published at 13:26 and edited at 13:50 Moscow time. At 14:12 this is the same video with reference to "catharsis" Published Former commander of the Azov regiment Maxim Zhorin with the signature of "Still occupied Kupyansk, Kharkov region. Civilian population. Reckoning will be! " Some Russian Media They decided that in this way Zhorin pleads the guilt of the Ukrainian military and "intimidates civilians who do not want to cooperate with Ukrainian militants." An hour and a half later, Zhorin edited the post, clarifying that "the video was taken from the phone of the occupier (Russian military - ed.)." On the Internet are preserved Screenshots its initial and edited post.

The next day in the Telegram group "Catharsis"And the channel Zhorin Another fragment of the same video appeared, where the two military leads a man to the top of the hill before throwing his body into the pit. "Catharsis" signed: "This is the beginning of the video where the guy is leading to execution. It is clearly visible Rusnya. ” The channel clarified that he could not publish a full video, because it is at the investigation.

Opinions on the Internet were divided. Ukrainian side claimsthat the video was shot by Russian soldiers during the occupation of Kupyansk by the Russian troops, and then somehow came to the authors of the Ukrainian Channel "Catharsis". Russian side He thinksthat the video is featured by the Ukrainian military, who organized the reprisal against the inhabitants of Kupyansk, who collaborated with the Russian administration.

Evidence of the Ukrainian side

1. Red bandage. On the thigh of one of the military, leading a man to execute, a red bandage is visible. Such red bandages, according to Russia Today, use the Russian military and attack aircraft of the DPR. Nevertheless, nothing prevents the Ukrainian military from putting on a red bandage in order to then blame the Russian side of war crimes.

2. The video is taken from the phone of a Russian soldier. “Katharsis” and Zhorin only mention that the video “came to them” supposedly from the phone of the Russian soldier, but do not give evidence or details. It is not possible to check where it actually came from.

3. Chevron with the Russian flag. The authors of the channel "Catharsis" They saythat on the form of one of the military, Chevron with the Russian tricolor is visible. Nevertheless, due to poor video resolution, it is difficult to accurately determine what exactly is depicted on the Chevron. Besides usually In the Russian military, a sleeve sign with a flag is located on the left shoulder. And on the right - a sign of belonging to a specific military formation.

Source: Telegram channel "Catharsis"

Evidence of the Russian side

1. The red bandage is imposed in the video editor. How Writes "Ren-TV", “If you look at the clip in a slowed form, you can see inept installation - when the Nazi with a bandage moves in the frame, it“ floats ”and remains on the bushes. It turns out that people in the video have nothing to do with the Russian army. ” In fact, if you make a paragraph analysis of this fragment, you can make sure that the bandage on the right leg of the military moves in accordance with its steps uphill. The illusion occurs due to poor video resolution and due to the fact that the military, taking a step with his left foot, leaves the supporting right behind for a second, while his body continues to move forward. In any case, it is impossible to accurately say that the dressing was added to the frame using a video editor.

2. A warm jacket and fallen leaves. Russian side claimsthat the video could not be shot during the occupation of Kupyansk by Russian troops that left the city in early September. Firstly, the video has a lot of fallen leaves, and "in the photographs from the city that Ukrainian soldiers published in early September, it is clear that there were no fallen leaves there." Secondly, the body of one of the murdered men in the video is dressed in a warm red down jacket, and the Russian military left the city before the onset of cold weather. In fact, if you compare the state of nature in the video with photos Kupyansk shortly after the release, the particular difference is not noticeable. As for warm clothes, judging by photographs, in early September, many residents had already put on down jackets. In addition, it is not worth concluding the weather based on the clothes of a murdered man. Two other murdered civilians in the pit are dressed in light sweaters, a military with a red bandage - into a T -shirt. And the man who rolls down in the video is generally almost undressed.

Kupyansk shortly after the departure of the Russian army in September. Source: Office of the President of Ukraine

3. Metadata. Russian telegram users have made a metadata analysis that showedthat the video was created on October 9 at 13:24 - two minutes before it was published by the Channel "Catharsis". Nevertheless, the meta -analysis of the video in Telegram shows not the date of creating the video, but the date of its initial download to the platform. For example, a fragment "Solovyov Live"On October 6, laid down by the Channel" Catharsis "on October 9 at 13:03, according to metaanalysis It was created at 13:03 (or 10:03 on UTC). A video, on which two soldiers lead a man to be shot, according to meta -analysis, was created on October 10 at 19:34. Not only is it a day later than the episode, where the man is already dead, but at the eighth hour of the evening it should have been dark. Therefore, it is not worth relying on the “date of creation” indicated in the meta -analysis - it only indicates the date of initial download of the video to the Telegram platform.

The results of the meta -analysis carried out by Russian Media

So, the information available to us at the time of publication does not give an accurate answer, who still shot this video and the military which countries are captured on it. The accusations of both parties remain unproven. The fact of the fact of the fact we cannot check them yet.

Image on the cover: Telegram

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