Did Goebbels say that Bandera needs the third Reich in order to destroy the rebellious Slavs, after which they themselves need to be destroyed?

“Bandera are insane maniacs or, in other words, brutal cattle. But it is precisely these are we need in this period of time to destroy the rebellious Slavs. And then they themselves must be destroyed, since there are no place among people to animals ” - this quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels is often found on the network. We tried to figure out if Goebbels could say that? And if he could, did he speak in reality?

The words about Bandera, allegedly said by the chief ideologist of Nazi Germany, Joseph Goebbels, quote numerous Media, Bloggers And Users social networks. Often the authors of publications quote Goebbels in support of their opinion about Bandera or Ukrainians as a whole, speakingthat “even the Nazis despised them” or that it was impossible to allow Ukrainians to fall into the hands of nuclear and biological weapons, because they “according to Goebbels are insane maniacs and brutal cattle”. These words also quoted public personalities, such as an actor and showman Nikita Dzhigurda, head of the Opposition Bloc party faction in the Odessa Regional Council Vadim Kakarovsky and former Prime Minister of Ukraine Nikolai Azarov.

A quote about Bandera can often be found in the form of an image: a white text on a black background next to a portrait of the Reich Minister of Education and Propaganda of the Third Reich Joseph Goebbels. And the signature under the quote is “Paul Goebbels”. Although Goebbels had two names - Paul Joseph, as early as school years I chose The second name and your work are always Signed It is like Joseph Goebbels. This discrepancy, although it does not prove the fake of the quote, indicates that it is unlikely that the creator of this collage copied a quote from the source or authoritative publication, where Goebbels’s name would be indicated correctly.

The search for a quote in German did not give results. Translated by this phrase, it would sound something like this: “Die Banderiten Sind Verrückte Wahnsinnige Oder, Mit Anderen Worten, Verrücktes Vieh. Aber Das Sind Diejenigen, Die Wir in Dieser Zeit Brauchen, Um Die Rebellischen Slawen Zu Vernichten. Und Dann Müssen Sie Selbst Zerstört Werden, Denn Die Tiere Haben Keinen Platz Unter Den Menschen ”(Translation of the author of publication). But even the search for the combination of keywords Die Banderiten (“Bandera”) and Josef Göbbels did not give results. Also not in publicly available digitized statements Goebbels of the references to the organization of Ukrainian nationalists under the leadership of Stepan Bandera (OUN (B.)), Which during the Second World War sought to cooperate with Germany for a joint struggle against Moscow.

Although Goebbels did not speak about Bandera (at least according to open sources), he probably knew about their actions, as well as other Members of the top leadership of the Third Reich. Formation of OUN battalions (b) Courageous The head of the Abwehr (German military intelligence and counterintelligence) Wilhelm Canaris, but the relationship of the OUN (b) with Abwehr Wore The pragmatic nature of the situational union, when both sides were beneficial to achieve their goals. How He wrote Subsequently, the historian and participant of the OUN (b) Lev Shankovsky, the organization “was ready for cooperation with Germany for joint struggle against Moscow,” but only if Ukrainian independence is recognized. In June 1941, Bandera's associations at a meeting at the Lviv Opera Theater proclaimed the Act of the Renaissance of the Ukrainian State. For some Information, the German leadership reacted extremely negatively to this initiative. After listening to the report on the events in Lviv, Hitler said: “Partygenosse Himmler, put things in order with this gang,” and also ordered “to trample those who allowed this Slavic fat.” Bandera was arrested and placed in the concentration camp of Zasenhausen, where he spent more than three years in a single chamber - however, in a special department for "political persons". Since then in their propaganda leaflets The Germans called Bandera and OUN to Stalin agents.

In November 1941, the security chief and sd Reinhard Heydrich signed order On the elimination of Bandera:

“Topic: OUN (Bandera movement)

It is unambiguously established that Bandera is preparing an uprising in the ReichskyMissariat with the ultimate goal of creating independent Ukraine. To immediately arrest all the figures of the Bandera movement and, after a thorough interrogation, quietly eliminate as looters. Send the interrogations protocols to the operational group C/5. This document is subject to immediate destruction after it is taken into account by the head of the group. ”

Nevertheless, not a single statement of the top command of the Third Reich we found, including Goebbels, does not indicate the need to destroy the Bandera, because "there are no place among people." It is only about the rejection of the German leaders of any Slavic statehood, including the Ukrainian one, to which Bandera nationalists openly strove.

The earliest citation of the supposedly words of Goebbels about Bandera, we found in publications 2017 on the website of the Ukrainian Internet journal "Correspondent.net", owned by the Ukrainian TV presenter and "expert of Russian TV" Yuri Kotu. The cat is more than once He performed On the TV shows of Russian state channels, commenting on the Bandera movement during the Second World War and in modern Ukraine. The cat also wrote book “Ukrainians! We are Russian! What a delight! ”, In which, as if“ using good evidence, the author claims that Ukrainians will certainly return to the bosom of their native Russian civilization. ” 

We contacted Yuri Kat to clarify the origin of Goebbels's quote, which he used in his publication of 2017. The cat replied that the quote actually belongs not to Goebbels, but to Gaulitera of East Prussia Erich Kochu And in evidence, he shared a link to fast Boris Rozhin, writing under the pseudonym Colonelcassad. In this post, Rozhin analyzes the reliability of the quotation attributed to Koch: “Ukrainians are fragmented Russians who are ready to catch even their frau for the idea of ​​the Ukrainian power. They are perfect fighters against the Red Army, but after they are subject to total rehabilitation as the most terrible barbarians. ” Regardless of whether this phrase belongs to Koch, it is very different from Goebbels's pseudocytes that the cat used. The cat did not answer a second question about the primary source of the quote of interest to us.

With a high probability of Yuri Kot, there is a real author of Goebbels’s statement about Bandera, who picked up and replicated online publications and users of social networks.

Fake

What do our verdicts mean?

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